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« on: March 06, 2010, 09:22:03 PM »
I have a pattern, and hopefully the photo will upload, that has about 600 small pieces.  The finished size will be 20" x 43".  I need some advise on where to reinforce, what type of reinforcement to use, and what size zinc framing to go with. This is a copper foil panel.

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 10:41:05 AM »
With that many pieces you may not need any at all. I would be sure to fix some of the tricky cuts first.
If it' going in a door single glazed you may want to reinforce it further or install against 1/4" lami.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 11:07:18 AM »
With that much labor, that many square feet and that much weight (don't forget the solder!), I strongly urge you to consider making (or having made) a wooden frame. IMHO, a zinc preimeter, even 3/4" wide, will look pretty tiny and will, in fact, be pretty wimpy.

A wood frame will look more proportionate to the size and needs of the piece.

As usual, I suggest you "dummy it up". Lay out your pattern, then put something to simulate various frame widths around it. This will give you a good idea of how much visual "weight" the frame can add or how flimsey it can look.

Additionally, the panel will, in fact, weigh a fair amount so could use consideration for carrying it safely.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 11:49:47 AM »
Unless it's going to be installed in a situation that will subject it to a lot of stress, like a door, a casement window or in a particularly windy spot. it shouldn't need reinforcing.

Substantial framing would certainly be preferred aesthetically, but 3/4 in zinc or brass will do the job. The weight question will have to be addressed in the hangers if it is to be hung. Hooks and chains will have to be substantial.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 06:31:53 AM »
VERY helpful!  thank you
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 12:07:50 AM »
When I do panels that size I make an oak frame for it.  I like 1"X2" oak which yields a 1.75" width. 
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